changes to status

### Determining Status

There are four factors the create status:

• Rank - the basic amount of respect you command based on power or influence.
• Office - respect you gain from the position you hold with in the sect.
• Age - respect based on your age.
• Generation - respect based on how far you are from Caine.
• Other Sources - respect granted you from Boons, Blackmail, Tithes or other sources.

Rank + Office + Age + Generation + Other Sources = Your Standing in the Camarilla.

### Rank

Rank is your most basic social standing. Rank not only confers power, but it also represents your the recognition to handle certain responsibilities in the sect. Rank determines what offices you can hold but whether you choose to accept an office is an other matter. Rank is set by staff upon your acceptance into the city. Where you begin depends largely on your OOC power level. Things likes Resources, Influence, physical/magical prowess, and clan are all taken into consideration. When one Coup's you go up in rank.

 Rank Min Pool Max Pool 0 0 0 1 10 25 2 30 50 3 90 110 4 270 300 5* 500 None

*Only a Prince, Justicar or Archon and have this rank.

### Offices

Office is, in most cases, an appointed position with in the sect either locally. With the exception of Archons, these officials serve at the pleasure of the Prince and can be removed from them at any time.

• Anyone with an office with the exception of the Unofficials may set someone as an Unofficial.
• Only the Prince may set someone as a Sheriff, Keeper, Seneshcal, or Primogen.
• Primogen must be a rank 4 and are created by tithing a certain amount of status to the Prince.
• Clan Leader is set automatically based on the highest ranking member of that clan.
Office Power
Anyone Praise, Scorn, Tithe, Blackmail, Support, Boon
Archon Blood Hunt, Unofficial
Prince Progeny, Hunt, Acknowledge, Judge, Unofficial
Primogen Revolt, Unofficial

### Age

Age is an important point of prestige with in the Camarilla. While rank and position may vary, age implicitly confers a degree of status. Clearly to have surprised you must be doing something right.

 Title Additional Status Age Opinion Mod Childe 0 1-3 None Neonate 1 4-50 +/-1 Ancilla 2 51-199 +/-5 Elder 3 200-999+ +/-10 Ancient 5 1000+ +/-20

### Generation

Generation is also an important factor with in the Camarilla. One's generation is a certain point of pride and connotes a certain prestige. Generation offers prestige but it doesn't mean your words carry more weight.

13 None
12 1
11 2
10 3
9 4
8 5
7 10
6 30
5 50
4 100

If we reorganize status based on the above, LATMA looks like this:

Name Office Age Rank Generation Standing
Camille Justicar (200) Ancient (100) 5 (500) 6 (30) 830
Fredericka Prince (600) Elder (20 ) 5 (500) 8 (10) 1130 -120 =1010
Celestina Clan Leader (10) Keeper (10) Elder (20) 4 (270) 8 (10) 320
Trin Clan Leader (10) Ancilla (10) 4 (270) 8 (10) 300
Perfecta None Elder (20) 4 (270) 11 (3) 293
Adrian Archon (10) Ancilla (10) 4 (270) 12 (1) 291
Jove None Neonate (5) 4 (270) 8 (10) 285
Angelo Clan Leader (10) Ancilla (10) 3 (90) 8 (10) 120
Stuart None Ancilla (10) 3 (90) 8 (10) 110
Patricia None Ancilla (10) 3 (90) 10 (3) 103
Aysel Clan Leader (10) Ancilla (10) 2 (50) 8 (10) 80
Emet Sheriff (10) Neonate (5) 1 (10) 9 (4) 74
Walter Clan Leader (10) Ancilla (10) 2 (30) 8 (10) 60
Hobbes Clan Leader (10) Neonate (5) 2 (30) 10 (3) 48
Eleven Clan Leader (10) Neonate (5) 2 (30) None 45
Xavier None Neonate (5) 2 (30) 11 (3) 38
Sister Sraosha None Neonate (5) 2 (30) None 35
N/a From Prince's Pool (120) 160 2300 100 2560 + 500=3060

### Total Status Pool

This pool is WAY too big for a city that as only recently come under Camarilla rule.

There are currently 16 people with Camarilla Status.
There is a total of 4000 influence available.
2424 influence is in players' hands and 1576 is uncontrolled.

The pool Status with in a given area should be based not just the number of Kindred in a given city but their titles as well. A city that is mostly neonates ruled by an Ancilla Prince is considered weak and unimportant while a city with lots of elders is considered important with in the sect in and of itself.

Title Value Per Present
Recognized Prince 500
This is the basic investment the Camarilla makes in a new city. With out it, status becomes scarcity and the Prince has a much harder time maintaining his power independently.
Neonates 20
Ancilla 50
Elder 100
Ancient 500

If we decide the base rank of a city is based purely on age, LATMA is worth:

(1)
$$100 + 300 + 500 +300=1200$$

With out the support of Chicago, LATMA is only worth

(2)
$$100 + 300 +300=700$$

You can also get more status in the pool by making more vampires (good luck) and getting them acknowledged, getting the attention of someone outside the City to praise you, such as an Archon, a Justicar or one of the Inner Circle. Their praise is now available to be traded with in the total of the pool. Justicars and Inner Circle members only praise large accomplishments.

Action Value
+blackmail Varies
You have some dirt on an other vamp to expose you if you don't do what they want. Could be a boon, a tithe or some other service. You decide the amount of status you think the blackmail is worth. You have to be careful not to set it too high otherwise they may just decide to come clean. This command needs to be hidden.
+bmailsee none
See who you are blakmailing/blackmailing you.
+exposebmail See +blackmail
Lets your black mail rip and the blackmailed party looses that status set.
+approvebmail See +blackmail
Approves that blackmail stipulations have been completed.
+comeclean Varies
Someone attempts to blackmail you? You decide to say fuck it and expose yourself to the mercy of the court. It's open season on scorn on you and the Prince ultimately decides your total status loss. Could be anywhere from a slap on the wrist to a blood hunt
+Tithe Varies
You tithe a certain amount of your status to a given Kindred for a period of time in order to pay off a boon, gain feeding rights (to the Prince, Domain holders, or Racks), to prevent them from exposing blackmail. This can be a per use (use of the rack) or an on going tithe (to the Prince).
+Tithesee none
Allows you to see who you are tithing to and for how long.
+Support Varies
This allows support a particular Praise or Scorn for an other Kindred. The difference between +Support and the other commands is that it grants 1 the supported Kindred +2 status for each support.
+Pronounce Varies
Sets a record in the current standing log of a Kindred's state or punishment. This is used by the Prince as a means of creating great social difficulty for the Kindred in question. Used in the case of blood hunts, ostracism, bans, stakings, disappearances, traitors, or oath (boon) breakers. On the positive side, it grants Domain, Rack controllers, Monopolies over certain kine dealings, creation of Elysiums or other important events.
+Revolt See Tithe
A Primogen can choose to tithe their status to a better candidate and attempting to end the Prince's rule. If the Primogen are able to deplete the Prince's status enough then the revolt is successful and the Prince is no longer officially Prince. If the Prince abdicates, then the old Prince and slink off in disgrace. If he refuses to abdicate, the new Prince usually calls a blood hunt on the old and it all ends in tears, bloodshed and diablerie.
+Abdicate See Revolt
A Prince may use this at any time to end his or her rule. This command returns the PC to a status ranking of Rank + Generation + Age. If a blood hunt is called, then the former Prince is reduced to 0 unless other Kindred choose to tithe to him in support of his rebellion.
+Domain

### Tithing

 Priveledge Cost Interval Acknowledgement None Once Basic Support from the 6 Clans 5 Monthly Basic Support from Indies & Gangrel 7 Monthly Basic Support from Cattiff 10 Monthly Support from Clan 1-10 Monthly The amount demanded varies from city to city and clan to clan. Some clans, like Tremere and Ventrue, demand extensive clan support for their leaders. Others vary based on circumstance. Some demand little to none at all. Feeding Rights From the Prince 2 Per Week Feeding Rights In a Primogen's Domain Varies Feeding At the Rack 1-15 Per Use Entering and other's Domain (Non-Prince 3 use Progeny 100 Once Progeny 10 Till released Ghouling 50 Once Ghouling 5 Unless the ghoul is lost Domain 10 Per Week Rack 5 Per Week Primogen 20 Week Monopoly 20 Week
• Monopolies, Racks, & Domains costs can be divided between coteries or clans.

Questions:

• The numbers are currently hypothetical. I'm not sure what they should be really. Given that, what do you think a realistic total Status pool for the entire sect in LATMA should be, given that there are 2 Archons, a Justicar, and an acknowledged Prince?

Age Breakdown
Neonate 5
Ancilla 6
Elder 3

• The +revolt system could work a little better as well. What do you think of it? It should be primarily lead by the Primogen and give the Prince a reason to limit the number of Primogen, if he can. Primogen are who they are because they are too powerful to be ignored. WHile the Prince COULD name a bunch of Primogen he'd be stupid to do so. It would just deplete his power. But I don't see a neonate anarch causing a revolution from with in. I do see the Primogen having the power, collectively, to do so, but not individually. Primogen who fail at a revolution should probably be severely punished.
• How do we differentiate the Anarch state from someone who is blood hunted, status wise? I suppose that is up to the Prince as to whether or not they are tolerated. Aysel as an anarch is no problem but if Jove went anarch that could be problematic.